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2008 NEC Code
Re: Lightning Protection Licensing and Permitting by Bryan Holland @ Today at 01:30 PM

I just find it weird that the the ECLB has come down really hard on limited energy installers as of late yet lightning protection is considered a non-regulated industry... Based on the current statutes and published state rules, the local building d
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Re: Lightning Protection Licensing and Permitting by gfretwell @ Yesterday at 11:52 AM

I guess, if you are using licensing as a performance standard and not just a way to restrain trade and increase government revenue, we have to ask, what are the education requirements of a person who installs an LPS? Does the board have approved cour
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Re: Lightning Protection Licensing and Permitting by psnorthrup @ Yesterday at 08:51 AM

Odd that this should come up now, I just had this come up Yesterday, Still don't know what to do with it, I think Palm Beach, Dade, and Broward Counties have some written regulations, I did a lot of searching on the internet yesterday, couldn't find
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Lightning Protection Licensing and Permitting by Bryan Holland @ Yesterday at 07:38 AM

Hello Everyone, I have a couple questions regarding the installation, permitting, and licensing of Lightning Protection Systems. F.S. 489.503(22) specifically exempts, “Any person who installs or repairs lightning rods or related systems” from ECLB
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by Ruben Rocha @ 09/01/10 07:02 PM

Reminds me of last week where the local gas station was running extension cords in the suspended ceiling to power up the new beer neon signs. I guess that would be okay. Ha Ha
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Jump to new posts Re: Moving day is upon us. by Bryan Holland @ 09/01/10 06:55 PM

Thanks for the update Ruben!
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by Nick Sasso @ 09/01/10 06:41 PM

That would most definitely not be permitted. You can never run a cord through a suspended ceiling. If I follow the post correctly, your original question had the scenario of a condensate pump (already above the ceiling) being plugged in (above ceil
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by SOwings @ 09/01/10 06:03 PM

I think the final answer is as someone at the NE Fl. IAEI meeting pointed out, that the beginning of 400.8 says "Unless specifically permitted in 400.7...." which tells me that 400.7(8) would prevail and this, in turn, would allow it if it
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Jump to new posts Re: Moving day is upon us. by Ruben Rocha @ 09/01/10 04:11 PM

Okay we will move to a new host on Labor day. Some time around 2pm EST The board will close to inhibit posting. So we can make a backup. When you can access the board again will depend on when the name is propagated for you from your ISP. At the very
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by Nick Sasso @ 08/30/10 03:25 PM

One or both articles could probably use some tweaking. One thing to watch for is a plenum ceiling. Then it is a "no way" for the cord and the pump as well.
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by SOwings @ 08/30/10 03:04 PM

Yes, I saw 400.7 and in the past that is how I have addressed condensate pumps but I have to wonder that the statement in 400.7 is a general statement and 400.8(5) is specific to a particular location (installation). I was always taught that a specif
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by Bryan Holland @ 08/30/10 01:09 PM

I agree with the above statements. A receptacle outlet above the ceiling would facilitate temporary cord-and-plug connection for maintenance and repair issues. A good example would be Section 210.63 of the NEC / Section 306.3.1 of the FMC which req
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by Nick Sasso @ 08/30/10 10:06 AM

400.7 may allow the condensate pump - "Appliances where the fastening means and mechanical connections are specifically designed to permit ready removal for maintenance and repair, and the appliance is intended or identified for flexible cord co
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Re: Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by barbeer @ 08/30/10 09:57 AM

Your last sentence says it. Receps above susp. ceiling is allowed, you just can't plug anything in!
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Atticle 400.8(5) Cords in ceilings by SOwings @ 08/28/10 08:56 AM

I was talking with My BO the other day and he was involved in a discussion about cords run through ceiling tiles to plug in projectors hung from a suspended ceiling with the receptacle above. This is prohibited by 400.8(2) but as I read further, I st
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