IAEI Minutes
October 5, 2005
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Charles Crain called the meeting to order on, October 5, 2005 at the Quality Riverfront Inn in Palatka at 12:00 AM.

Present at the meeting were: John Griffin, Charles Crain, Jimmy Douglas, Jim Lindahl, Phil Dunnington, Cliff Wilson, Don Brindley, Andrew Schirmacher, Doug Derousie, Dallas Stratton, Taylor Sams, Mark Nechvatal, Casty Hobbs, W.R. Bodie Jr. and Alan Waters.

The minutes were approved as sent out; John Griffin gave the invocation and led The Pledge of Allegiance.

Treasury Report: Dallas Stratton reported all bills are paid and we are solvent.

Old Business: Charles Crain began the meeting by going over the proposed changes for the Division By-Laws. They where as follows: 1, that the position of Secretary and Treasurer remain as an unpaid job or change them to paying positions. 2, whether the Sec. & Treas. Position should remain as two separate positions or combine them as one job. 3, that only inspector members shall obtain the office of President or Vice-President or to change that to allow Senior Associate Members to hold those offices.
A Motion was made that we change the last one #3, too allow Senior Associate members to be Pres. or V.P. of our Division. The motion was seconded and the vote was unanimous. Three officers of the Division signed it and sent it back to the By-Law Committee. The board elected to have the offices of Sec. and Treas. to remain unpaid and also to remain as two separate positions. And to allow senior associate members to hold the office of Pres. Or VP.

Don Brindley announced that we are down 3 members from last month. Giving a Division total of 207 members.

New Business: Don Brindley informed us about information concerning Electrical Safety when dealing with floodwaters. U.L. has a brochure available on the subject. These brochures can be ordered online from UL at www.ul.com. Click on Service Feature: Hurricane Floodwaters.

Don also brought up the change in the 2005 NEC in Article 680.26 (C). It states that an equipotential bonding grid must extend at least 3’ past the pool wall under any paved walkways. It is thought that bonding paver stones is the intent of the code.

Philip Dunnington asked about smoke detectors and what the other counties where accepting as far as security system smoke detectors. It was agreed that the code allows this as long as the power source is hard wired; since the security system has a transformer that plugs into a receptacle it could not be allowed.

Philip also asked about a job where the Main disconnect was outside and the sub-panels where located in an upstairs bonus room. The clearances where all okay and the floors where decked. The only access to the room was a pull-down set of attic stairs. It was agreed that this would suffice the code and should be accepted.

Jimmy Douglas asked if the other counties where accepting two services to a building in the effort to have both single and three phase power on a building. Duval County has typically not allowed this. The other counties present agreed that they do allow this.

Mr. Bodie with Bodie Electric asked what could be done about a job he is currently working on. Apparently he has a job, which was to be a Safety Inspection (in Duval Co./JEA any building with the power off for over one year requires a Safety Insp.). The Inspector found that the building had been rewired while the power was out and this work was not permitted. Now the inspection dept. is requiring that an electrical engineer sign off on the job. Mr. Bodie’s question was why couldn’t the Contractor sign off on it; the answer was that he is not licensed to do electrical inspections where as an engineer could. This brought up a question by other contractors; why do the insurance companies have contractors “inspect” homes for insurance reasons if they are not inspectors?


Education: Time restraints did not allow.

Charles Crain pulled Mark Nechvatal’s name from the hat to win the 50/50 drawing. Lucky Mark.

The next meeting will be held at the Quality Inn in Palatka at 12:00 noon November 2, 2005.

Alan L. Waters


Secretary