Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 1599
Loc: City of North Port
Like described by Nick, we at the City of North Port require sub-permits for all limited energy work (not exempt by the FCC or FBC) unless it is being performed under the scope of the main electrical contractors permit.
Homeowners having new phone, sound, cable, etc. wiring are not required to obtain a permit. Fire alarm or security alarms do. Any limited energy work performed in a commercial occupancy requires a permit.
Homeowners having new phone, sound, cable, etc. wiring are not required to obtain a permit. Fire alarm or security alarms do. Any limited energy work performed in a commercial occupancy requires a permit.
What is the difference between homeowner and contractor? Are you saying if a homeowner adds a phone outlet no permit but if a contractor does, a permit is required?
Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 1599
Loc: City of North Port
No. Sorry I didn't word that correctly. Limited energy circuits and systems at residential (one- and two-family dwellings) occupancies are exempt from permitting and inspections, except for fire and burgular alarm systems.
For example, if a HO hires a contractor or company to install new data lines, phone lines, cable TV, etc. in their home, we don't require permits.
However, we do aise HO's to only use licensed and insured contractors to perform this type of work.
Any and all systems installed in a commercial occupancy require inspections.
Nick Sasso
Post-A-Holic Member
Registered: 11/08/01
Posts: 1438
Loc: West Palm Beach
Bryan, maybe you still didn't word it correctly?
Homeowners are not required to have separate permits for such because usually that wiring is all installed by the same electrical contractor who is already part of the residential permit. We still inspect "under 50 volts" as it is part of the NEC.
Commercial is another can of worms. You may have one CCTV contractor, one data contractor, one fire alarm contractor, etc., etc., etc.
I agree with Nick. The old exemption for permitting and inspections for systems under 50 volts is out of the code since SBCCI.
In Sumter County all residential limited energy system permits fall under the main permit, since the electrician does the work. Additinal permits are not required.
Just like Nick said with commercial that is another ball game.
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psnorthrup
Mechanic Member
Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Plant City
We have been permitting and inspecting Low Voltage for at least 2 years here in Plant City, I understand that the City of Tampa is also starting to permit and inspect LV
Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 1599
Loc: City of North Port
The problem is getting permits and inspections on homes already CO'd, especially from the 'national' installers like the big telecom and cable companies.
Some of the worst installations I have seen are the DISH SYSTEMS (DIRECT TV, DISH NETWORK). Namely the grounding practices and methods.