November 8, 2007
City of Safety Harbor

18 Suncoast Division Members attendance


1. The gavel struck at 1:32PM thus commencing the General meeting of the Suncoast Division.
President Nelson Montgomery led the Division with the Pledge to the Flag and introductions followed.
Joe Bolesina was present to instill some laughter at he opening moments and Fred Wappler with A Randy’s Electric brought about some laughter as well. Jerry Ahlstrom, whom retired from Pinellas County, was also in atttendance.

2. The Minutes of October were motioned by Joe Bolesina for acceptance and second was voiced.
All were in favor. The Secretary discussed the over e-mail problem and discovered that his service provider shut down his e-mail ability due to the number of mailings sent out. Secretary’s e-mail has been down for 3 days at that point. The resolution was to divide the mailing list into two groups. to reduce any further security issues with sending e-mails in the mass.

Secretary Chrsitlieb reviewed current emails Robert Barbee’s question about instructors was briefly addressed. An email from Wes Colley with the ECF was read concerning membership and up coming classes to be given by Neil Burdick. Other e-mails were discussed concerning the 2007 Annual meeting and the up coming Board of Directors meeting in January of 2008.

A letter from the Florida Chapter Secretary was read concerning Code proposal changes submitted by the IAEI as a whole.

Copies available for the State mandated requirement for gas stations to have back up generators .Florida Statutes Section 526.143(2). Copy of the U.L. warning on ground fault interrupters that are not eligible to bear the U.L. mark.

Another e-mail concerning counterfeit Square –D breakers was discussed and a copy is on file.

Joe Bolesina submitted to the Chair a publication concerning Alexandria, Virginia where the 2008 Southern Section meeting is to be held.




3. Education Committee: Gary Snodgrass discussed plans for the upcoming seminar to be held in February of 2008. Planning was briefly discussed.

Secretary Chrsitlieb discussed the quote for the 2008 Analysis’s books. For 150 books to be priced, total cost will be $5,200.00. This included shipping. Discussion on the overall cost . A selling price of $45.00 had been determined

There are quite a number of changes coming with the new Code.

Discussion on how to pay for the books and current general funds were also discussed.
President Montgomery re-emphasized planning for the 2010 Annual meeting. Secretary read the current funds that are available. A current account update was presented by President Montgomery and read to the Division. All outstanding invoices have been paid from the seminar in September.

Also noted that education funds will be soon requested for distribution. Past dedicated funds have been $500.00 dollars per organization. Further discussion took place concerning the general fund and the education fund.

Discussion concerning setting funds into a CD. took place. Secretary inquired if the Division is ready to spend the funds on the books. Discussion on the current price took place. Question proposed was to purchase the books now for February or wait another month. Question to spend funds now or wait until February. Gary Snodgrass conveyed we will need funds to get the expense paid prior to the seminar.


Secretary Christlieb suggested purchasing the books before the seminar which will give the Division 30 days to pay the invoice. With funds that are generated from the seminar. Discussion on possible financial scenarios took place concerning setting funds aside for investment. Requests for funds would always be considered and funds distributed.


Secretary Christlieb also suggests holding funds to allow the Division to become a little more solvent.

4. A motion was made by Gary Snodgrass to table the purchase of the 2008Analyiisis Books. for now pending further discussion by the Division. A first made by John Sheesly and a second made by Neil Burdick. Only 1 vote against was voiced. Total of 17 votes in favor. The motion to table the purchase of the analysis books was tabled at this time


5. NOMINATING COMMITTEE asignments were made by the Chair. Paul Cameron, Joe Bolesina, Nelson Montgomery, Robert Christlieb, Michael Jordan and John Sheesley.

6. OLD BUSINESS: Discussion on continuing education classes being set up for each meeting was discussed
The Education Committee will work on it. Also discussion on legible e-mail address is requested by the Chair.

Discussion on the State format for submitting the names of attendees. Secretary has a format that was sent to him by Tarry Baker. The Secretary converted it to an excel format that could be used. Rob Sly made some suggestions and is willing to help with a format. Discussion about the State requirements and what needs to take place for the next seminar. Discussion on sign in sheets and what needs to be done for the next seminar. Secretary plans to have 1 sign in sheet for the next seminar that will be alphabetized





8. NEW BUSINESS: Joe Bolesina discussed a new ribbon type conductor that can be installed to a wall. This conductor ribbon is deigned to be placed under drywall compound and will probably be used for flat screen televisions. Protection from nails was discussed. This is a new product to be aware about.

Discussion on the tamper resistant receptacles was discussed. Discussion on receptacle design took place .and some pervious history. Joe Bolesina conveyed that 25, 0000 histories were brought into the CODE meeting by the Consumer Product Safety Commission. This fast tracked the tamper resistant receptacle. The documentation covered a period of five years.

AJ Frimmer discussed the new colored connectors that are the same color as the raceway it is to be used in conjunction with. A question about the paint coating was brought up. Is a good ground being made. The answer is the conduit is colored thru a coating process and is not painted. It allows the conduit and fittings to conduct.



10. Rob Sly will present a class in December for continuing education. Discussion concerning continuing education. He also mentioned the 2008 White book will soon be available.

Discussion on insta hots commenced. Some utilities are charging the customer if the utility has to up grade its distribution transformers.

Mentioned was Murray Electric was recently robbed by individuals that had stolen copper wire. These individuals were caught on video. Copper theft is on the rise Various theft stories were conveyed.

Discussion about paddle fans that contained a UL Label that was discovered in the light kit. These labels were determined to be counterfeit. An inspector was sharp enough to realize that a light kit should not carry the label for the ceiling fan.

A suggestion was made to Rob Sly to provide a presentation on how to use the White Book. Rob will look into it.

Further discussion on setting up 12 classes thru out the year and allowing for attendance to 8 classes receive credit for continuing education. Education Committee will look into setting up classes. Suggestions are welcomed.

An email from Dick Widera concerning Maynard Hamilton and his wife Agnes are re-cooperating from a car accident. The Division will send best wishes to Maynard and his wife. Secretary will arrange a flower delivery. Maynard has been involved with the IAEI for many years.

A motion was made by Joe Bolesina to send flower and a card. All were in favor.

Shirts were discussed. Some ideas were brought forward.


11. The Pasco County Committee was discussed. James Lemmons is currently serving as Secretary .President Nelson read an e-mail concerning the Pasco County Committee attendance and membership.
The Pasco Committee was set up for those members of the IAEI and ECF that wanted to attend meetings in their local area. James Lemmons discussed briefly about attendance being required by executive members.
Some of the Suncoast Divison members had been attending the meetings.

Noted that some members are having time restraints to attend meetings and functions.

Other discussion on license designations. The letter noted the Unlimited License meaning multiple licensing less than one license number.

12. Instructor pool was revised again. Additional members were added to the list. A final update will be ready for the December Meeting.


13. Adjournment was at 3:42 PM with a first motion made by Joe Bolesina and a second made Mac Mc Donald.