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#6857 - 02/08/10 09:56 AM
Re: Arc-Fault
[Re: Mike Timpanaro]
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Secretary
   
Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 1599
Loc: City of North Port
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While this is only commentary in the 2008 Handbook, it does help when trying to determine intent and making interpretations.
On page 90 of the 2008 NEC Handbook, "For the 2008 code, 210.12(B) requires that AFCI protection be provided for all 15- and 20-ampere, 120-bolt branch circuits that supply outlets (including receptacle, lighting, and other outlets: see definition of outlet in Article 100) located throughout a dwelling unit other than outlets installed in kitchens, btahrooms, unfinished basements, garages, and outdoors."
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Bryan P. Holland, MCP
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#6873 - 02/11/10 04:30 PM
Re: Arc-Fault
[Re: Mike Timpanaro]
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Registered: 10/05/04
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Loc: City of North Port
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I agree as well. A few related proposals for the 2011 NEC show some of the CMP intent: 2-166 Log #676 NEC-P02 Final Action: Reject (210.12(B)) _______________________________________________________________ Submitter: Ray C. Mullin, Ray C. Mullin Books Recommendation: Revise text to read as follows: 210.12 Arc-fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection. (B) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling units family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit. Exception No. 1: Exempt from (B) are 120-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling units that are required to have GFCI protection as stipulated in 210.8(A). Note: It shall be permitted to provide both AFCI and GFCI protection for 120- volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling units. Exception No. 2: Insert current Exception No. 1. Exception No. 3: Insert current Exception No. 2. Substantiation: There is much confusion in the interpretation of 210.12(B). Down the road, AFCI and GFCI devices will become available in many types. The “Laundry list” of rooms really does not cover all types of rooms that come under many different names. My proposal is quite simple to understand and enforce. Panel Meeting Action: Reject Panel Statement: The list of rooms is consistent and easy to understand since it was based on a similar list in NEC 210.52(A). The submitter’s claim that AFCI protection is not required where GFCI protection is required is inaccurate. AFCI protection and GFCI protection are two independent protections that accomplish two different objectives. AFCI protection is for protection from fire ignition for the branch circuit. GFCI protection is for protection from electrocution. Currently, there are areas of the dwelling that would require both forms of protection - one example is a wet bar located within a den or family room. The receptacles within 6 ft of the wet bar must have GFCI protection and the circuits supplying all outlets in the room must have AFCI protection. The panel does not agree that the current provisions are confusing - branch circuits supplying outlets in the rooms specified in 210.12(B) must be provided with AFCI protection. Receptacles installed as specified in 210.8(B) must have GFCI protection. Both requirements coexist and must be complied with. Number Eligible to Vote: 12 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 11 Abstain: 1 Explanation of Abstention: ORLOWSKI, S.: Please see NAHB’s Comment on Proposal 2-152. 2-174 Log #3451 NEC-P02 Final Action: Reject (210.12(B)) _______________________________________________________________ Submitter: Larry Logan, Township of Princeton Recommendation: Add text to read as follows: Dwellings Units. All 120 volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling units family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit. Substantiation: If, in fact, we are trying to protect the BRANCH CIRCUIT from arc-fault hazards, then the circuits that are protected by GFCI devices should not be excluded. I’m sure some members of Code Making Panel 2 must have seen the result of staples in walls or screws piercing wires that have caused fires from the arc effect, but may not have been a ground fault. I also believe that most GFCI protection is provided by a receptacle type device in homes, thus, leaving the BRANCH CIRCUIT unprotected until the first device. This proposal would also do away with the litany of room types required to be protected. Panel Meeting Action: Reject Panel Statement: In the 2008 NEC cycle the panel expanded AFCI to the list of locations and rooms as shown in 210.12(B). It is the intent of the panel to continue with AFCI in currently listed locations and rooms through the 2011 NEC. This expansion is independent of the requirements for GFCI. Number Eligible to Vote: 12 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 11 Abstain: 1 Explanation of Abstention: ORLOWSKI, S.: Please see NAHB’s Comment on Proposal 2-152. 2-177 Log #4713 NEC-P02 Final Action: Reject (210.12(B)) _______________________________________________________________ Submitter: Robert P. McGann, City of Cambridge Recommendation: Revise text as follows: Dwelling Unit (Habitable Areas and closets and hallways) (Family Rooms, Dining Rooms, Living Rooms, Parlors, Libraries, Dens, Bedrooms, sun rooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways or similar rooms or areas. Substantiation: The terminology similar rooms or areas is confusing, at best. For example when your dining area is in a dwelling is the kitchen counter top. This would solve that confusion and also give expanded protection into areas that only have GFCI protection, which is not a safe guard for the hazards that AFCI would protect against. Panel Meeting Action: Reject Panel Statement: The current wording is based largely on the list from 210.52(A). There have not been significant issues with interpreting the words of 210.52(A) that have existed for a number of code cycles and as such there should be no similar interpretation problems with the 210.12(B) wording. Number Eligible to Vote: 12 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 11 Abstain: 1 Explanation of Abstention: ORLOWSKI, S.: Please see NAHB’s Comment on Proposal 2-152. _________________________________________
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Bryan P. Holland, MCP
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#6897 - 03/11/10 11:24 AM
Re: Arc-Fault
[Re: COTInspector]
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Electrical Inspector/Plans Examiner
Registered: 06/26/01
Posts: 56
Loc: Milton,FL
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Just recieved this from Building Officials Association of Floridahttp://70.40.210.127/pdf/I-List/6450.pdfDate: Thu Mar 11 2010 Report: 6450 Code: Code Year: 2008 Section: 210.12(B) Question: Is it the intent of NEC Article 210.12(B) to require all outlets in a laundry room to be provided with Arc-Fault protected circuits? Comment: None. Answer: No. NEC Article 210.12(B) requires arc-fault protection in "...family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas." A laundry room is not similar to these rooms. Commentary: The NEC commentary specifically excludes, "...kitchens, bathrooms, unfinished basements, garages and outdoors..." from the requirement. These rooms are more similar to laundry rooms than those specifically listed in NEC Article 210.12(B). Notice: The Building Officials Association of Florida, in cooperation with the Florida Building Commission, the Florida Department of Community Affairs, ICC, and industry and professional experts offer this interpretation of the Florida Building Code in the interest of consistency in their application statewide. This interpretation is informal, non-binding and subject to acceptance and approval by the local building official.
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John Belew Electrical Inspector/Plans Examiner Santa Rosa Co. johnb@santarosa.fl.gov
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