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#696 - 09/10/03 09:54 AM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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Nick
Thanks for your input, I enjoy debating with you as this makes for some real brain-storming needed for us all to better understand what’s in the NEC but also what the NEC is lacking so we can improve on it. Also it gives all of us the opportunity to find out how things are being done in other jurisdictions. I know I have looked at things differently after reading some of your opinions, and have benefited from your experience.

Please keep us going
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#697 - 09/10/03 02:10 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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Thanks to both of you.I've been in the electrical trade for 20 odd years and only an inspector for 3. This sight really helps me see the truth and how to bettter interpet the code. laugh

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#698 - 09/10/03 02:14 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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Thanks Mike. I too, like debating the issues. I haven't been here lately - kinda busy - due to a personal issue that will hopefully be resolved by the end of this week.

I wish that more people would post, but I think they don't because the forum exposes what one doesn't know. Me, I don't care if I'm wrong because that is how you learn, by asking questions. Most of the time I am shooting from the hip, but your responses and others' responses force me to dig into the issues further and further. Keeps me on my toes. I am waiting for some technical specs on pool light jboxes at this moment because of this conversation. Thanks to all the BRAVE people who use this forum!

I will concede and agree with you that the seal can't be required from 680, but I would like to think that one has the option to require it due to chemical action that could result, using the articles I previously mentioned. I was just trying to help rasmith out of a jam. I agree that the box is corrosion resistant, but the connections?? Also, there is condensation, especially if the pool is heated, that would expose the connections to the chemicals.

300.7 touches on this, even though the intent I believe is for something else. At any rate, I'm still not finished and will look into this further. !!
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#699 - 09/10/03 02:16 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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No, thank you rasmith! By the way what is your first name?
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#700 - 09/10/03 02:20 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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AMEN!
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#701 - 09/10/03 11:35 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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My first name is Robert I use it because it sounds more professional then Bobby but you guys are more than welcome to call me Bobby. I'm going to try to find some spec's on the j-boxes. I think that the ones in question are thermaguard.Yes this sight works better if pride is thrown away. I guess it is true what they say electricians are arregant. We are the better trade though aren't we! laugh

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#702 - 09/30/03 10:42 PM Re: 680.24 j box & Encloser for Trans or GFCI
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Update on the pool lt j-box. I wrote the manufactor(Thermacraft) for spec's. In the spec's it doesn't require the j-box to be sealed. Which leaves me to the norm of the way it has been interpeted. By others in my juresdiction to seal the box from vapors via the pool lt. conduit thru the j-box to protect the trans. smile Some things better left alone I guess. but i believe it to be safer with sealing it. Going with the flow laugh

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