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#7170 - 04/26/10 04:41 PM GFCI protection for garages
Paul J Cameron Offline
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I have a 1971 code book (No gfci for garage) and a 1978 (Gfci protection required for garage). Any one know which code year it came into effect??
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#7171 - 04/26/10 07:08 PM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Paul J Cameron]
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Hay Paul, I'm not getting the question. As you just said it came into the 1978 code in section 210-8(a)(1).

Or are you wanting to know when Florida adopted the 1978 code?
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#7172 - 04/26/10 08:27 PM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Mike Timpanaro]
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I am with Mike's statement.
Prior to the FBC.
Who knows when a code was adopted per county/city.
For instance Pinellas county usually adopted a new nfpa 70 code within 6 months .
But then other areas in some cases adopted them years later after the fact. Even though a new code cycle was in print. In fact in some cases a couple cycles had passed.

So maybe in this case you would need to ask the Building Official for something this old.

Or possibly Jack Crim if he is hiding around here somewhere.
I believe he was the chief at the time in Pasco.

Also Nick was there for a while later on in time so maybe he will chime in.

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#7173 - 04/26/10 08:33 PM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Ruben Rocha]
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And BTW, In my feeble attempt to segregate the code questions here in different forums was just for this reason.

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#7176 - 04/27/10 09:47 AM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Ruben Rocha]
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Paul; http://www.iaei.org/magazine/?p=1594 try this link to IAEI Magazine article by Donny Cook

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#7177 - 04/27/10 11:09 AM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Mike Timpanaro]
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I was looking for the date it went into the NEC. It was not in 1971 but was in 1978. There was a code issued in 1975 and I was wondering if the GFCI requirement for garages went into that book.It must have as there is no bar to the left of the 1978 requirement. I should remember this as I took my first journeyman test on the 1975 book.
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#7178 - 04/27/10 03:19 PM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Paul J Cameron]
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Paul here is what I could find, I don't remember GFCIs being required in garages before 1978, and both sources I found say 1978.
Publication New GFCI Locations or Conditions Concerning GFCI
Introduced in NEC Publication
1971 GFCI receptacles required within 15 feet of swimming pool walls
All portable swimming pool equipment must be GFCI protected

1973 All outdor receptacles must be GFCI protected

1974 GFCI protection must be used on construction sites

1975 GFCI protection required for bathrooms, fountain equipment, 120 volt pool lights, and boathouses

1978 Exemption for exterior GFCI outlets located 6′&6″ above the ground
GFCI receptacles required for garages and spas (some local jurisdictions also included hydro-spa)

1981 Exemption for garage receptacles for dedicated equipment or not readily accessible (i.e. garage door opener power supply outlet that can not be reached without the ladder)

1984 Replacement of non-grounding receptacles with no grounding conductor
Pool cover motors require GFCI
GFCI receptacle distance from swimming pool wall extended to 20′

1997 GFCI required for unfinished basements
GFCI required for hydro-spa
GFCI protection required for kitchen countertop receptacles located within 6′ from the sink

1990 GFCI required in crawlspaces with an exception of sump pumps and any other dedicated equipment

1993 GFCI required for wet bar countertop, within 6′ from the sink
Any receptacle replaced in an area that currently requires GFCI

1996 GFCI protection required for all kitchen counters, not only within 6′ from the sink
GFCI required for all exterior outlets except for dedicated deicing tape / cable receptacle
Unfinished accessory building at or below grade require GFCI protected receptacles

1999 Exception for dedicated equipment in crawlspace area removed







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#7179 - 04/27/10 09:01 PM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: psnorthrup]
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No. It was not in the 1975 code book. And there is a long bar next to the section I quoted on the right side of the page.
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#7180 - 04/28/10 08:28 AM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Mike Timpanaro]
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#7181 - 04/28/10 10:24 AM Re: GFCI protection for garages [Re: Bryan Holland]
Paul J Cameron Offline
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Thanks guys,
Mike, I missed the bar on the right side, my book isn't in the best shape and it was right near the edge of the page. Hope to see some of you next week in Tampa.
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