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#8124 - 03/01/11 09:56 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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AGREE. Although some have trouble with the electrical plans examiner test. But these tests can in no way compare to Colorado Electrical Journeyman Exam. It was probably one of the hardest tests I ever did take. But on a positive note, I had the unique opportunity to visit Golden.... and take in the sights....as the snow gently. slowly, floated to the ground.......it was like I was trapped inside a Christmas card! And I wasn't complaining!
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#8125 - 03/02/11 06:03 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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For electrical professionals, the ICC electrical exams are quite simple. For non-electrical professionals, they are a nightmare. So, I guess it is all relative. The hardest exam I have taken from ICC from my perspective was FIRE INSPECTOR I, yet I have heard fire professionals tell me that exam is a joke...

Success is in the preparation. If you make a diligent effort to study and prepare, every exam is passable.

Ben Franklin said it best, "fail to prepare, prepare to fail".


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#8133 - 03/10/11 08:04 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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After re-reading the pertinent statutes related to this bill, it appears to me there really is not teeth behind this this requirement.

The j-man requirement is in part (F) of Section 489.537(3). That section states: "Nothing in this act limits the power of a municipality or county:"

Based on that language, this rule can onlyt be enforced if the local county or municipality wants to. It's not going to be enforced by that state nor is there anything in the section that states what happens if one doesn't comply with the rule.

It is my understanding that only certain areas of South Florida have J-Man requirements on the books. I don't know of any other county or municipality that has j-man rules in the local ordinances...
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#8136 - 03/11/11 02:18 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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That has always been the issue Bryan. If the state is not going to adopt a statewide card program it will not happen.
I only see this as a financial hardship to the working person.

This item has been on the books for years and it looks like there has not been any progress at all.

If the state took over the registration of j-cards. And there was reciprocity then it would become a popular program.
Because financially it would appeal to the working class people.

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#8179 - 04/05/11 01:45 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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Hello All,

It appears the Journeyman Bill is moving forward. The following link is an analysis by the Regulated Industries Committee. The bill is now with Community Affairs.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0838/Analyses/t95vcYjU0PaL3FQTUIjXZQ/DET8=%7C7/Public/Bills/0800-0899/0838/Analysis/2011s0838.pre.ri.PDF
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#8190 - 04/20/11 11:31 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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I am positively in favor of minimum qualifications for all employees of licensed contractors. Florida has licensed qualifiers to obtain a contractor's license and then they hire a supervisor and laborers to do the work (read rental employees to avoid workmans comp.) The intention in law was good but the actual practice circumvents the intent.
I want to see qualified individuals on the job that I do not have to monitor...I can tell stories...

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#8191 - 04/20/11 12:40 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
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I agree with Ron.
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