MENU
Florida Chapter Officers
BOD Chairman
Dan Prater
President
Ted Licitra
1st Vice President
Mark Deegan
2nd Vice President
Richard Wheelus
3rd Vice President
Vince Dellacroce
Chaplain
James Douglas
Secretary
Joe DuPriest
Treasurer
Eric L Wasser
Parliamentarian
Tim Wright
Who's Online
0 registered (), 4 Guests and 16 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
ddasa, mcfs509, Spike, dsf, Christoper
519 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Nick Sasso 5
Bryan Holland 5
Heinz R. 2
TerryR 1
Mike Timpanaro 1
Google Search
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#8093 - 02/25/11 06:28 AM SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement
Bryan Holland Offline

Secretary
*****

Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 1622
Loc: City of North Port
Check out Senate Bill 838 and House Bill 607.

If successful, section 489.537(3)(f) of the F.S. will be revised to require at least one licensed journeyman electrician on any new or exisiting commerical or industrial facility of 5,000 gross square feet where the work perform exceeds 98 volts.

The current provision is for 50,000 square feet or more of new facilities only.

The law would take effect July 1, 2011.
_________________________
Bryan P. Holland, MCP

Top
#8094 - 02/25/11 08:20 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
psnorthrup Offline
Mechanic Member

Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Plant City
I Hope it passes both houses,

Top
#8095 - 02/25/11 08:30 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
psnorthrup Offline
Mechanic Member

Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Plant City
Bryan ck the HB 607 again I can't find anything that relates to Journeymen in that bill, found the Senate Bill

Top
#8096 - 02/25/11 08:36 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
psnorthrup Offline
Mechanic Member

Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Plant City
never mind I found it

Top
#8097 - 02/25/11 11:11 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
Nick Sasso Offline

Post-A-Holic Member
****

Registered: 11/08/01
Posts: 1451
Loc: West Palm Beach
Usually these bills die but given the unlikely provisions in this one, it would not make sense for the home builders to oppose it.
_________________________

Top
#8098 - 02/25/11 01:48 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
Ruben Rocha Offline
Senior Member
*****

Registered: 05/24/00
Posts: 767
I am all for it.
Many moons ago some jurisdictions required licensed journeymen on a job.
And everyone barked about it.(Contractors)
Then it kinda went away with all the changes in Tallahassee.
I recall the home builders were the strongest fighting it.

Then it kinda came back with no provisions on who or what would monitor and license them. It was just a mention in a bill with no details.

I have always felt it would benefit the electrician and the customer.

Implementation would probably be tough. Due to finding them at first. But as time progresses that would go away.

Top
#8100 - 02/25/11 07:16 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Ruben Rocha]
SOwings Offline
CBO, MCP, ER, EN

Registered: 01/22/10
Posts: 50
Loc: Nassau County
I think this might be the bill that Steve Wise sponsored and has bee floating around for a few years. I think it couldn't even got out of committee in 2008 or 09.
I would be astonished if the thing ever gets to the floor with the strong pro business congress we have.

Top
#8101 - 02/26/11 08:50 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: SOwings]
pablankinship Offline
Apprentice Member

Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 6
Loc: Plant City
I can't see where this would hurt home builders. In the current employment market liscensed journeymen are about a dime a dozen, at least in the area I am in. On the job I am currently running (and BTW I am NOT a liscensed journeyman) I have 2 former superintendants (both with cards) working for me who are getting paid peanuts for the qualifications that they have.

And way back when we did have the provision, I was never asked if I had a card. If they state is going to require that there be a journeyman on every job then there should be a state recognized journeyman's card. And I don't mean a card that tests your ability to find things in the code book, just because you can pass a test on the book doesn't mean that you can take that knowledge and apply it in the field. Maybe this would be a good topic to discuss under a seperate thread.

Top
#8104 - 02/26/11 11:39 AM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
gfretwell
Unregistered


That was my question. Who says you are a journeyman if there is no state certification in a right to work state? As far as I know DBPR is the only agency that can certify anyone here legally.
Is that on the table yet?

Top
#8105 - 02/26/11 01:19 PM Re: SB 838 / HB 607 - Journeyman Requirement [Re: Bryan Holland]
Nick Sasso Offline

Post-A-Holic Member
****

Registered: 11/08/01
Posts: 1451
Loc: West Palm Beach
some counties give the test
_________________________

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >



Active Topics
May Meeting Minutes
by Bryan Holland
05/17/12 02:05 PM
May Meeting Announcement
by Bryan Holland
05/08/12 07:58 AM
Visual Alarms
by Nick Sasso
05/02/12 03:55 PM
Nonmetallic Extensions
by Nick Sasso
04/25/12 03:33 PM
Selective Coordination of Circuit Breakers
by Heinz R.
04/24/12 05:03 PM
May
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
Featured Member
JBD
JBD
Registered: 03/20/10
Posts: 0
Forum Stats
519 Members
29 Forums
1892 Topics
8569 Posts

Max Online: 53 @ 03/30/12 04:16 PM
Uploaded Pictures
Can You Spot The Electrical Violation?
1948 Signalite Fuse
Portable Generator Grounding
2011 Florida Gulf Coast Division - Seminar
Knob and tube in industrial application
1920's Duplex Radio Outlet
Random Gallery Image