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#8368 - 09/16/11 03:57 PM Transformers and 110.26(A)
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"Working Space. Working space for equipment operating at 600 volts, nominal, or less to ground and likely to require examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized shall comply with the dimensions of 110.26(A)(1), (A)(2), and (A)(3) or as required or permitted elsewhere in this Code"
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What in a transformer needs examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized? If the windings short you can either see the smoke, smell the smoke, or see smoke stains. Adjustments are made in a de-energized state, try to change taps while energized damages equipment fed from the xfmer. What is to serviced and what is to be maintained inside a transformer? If voltage readings are needed, they can be made either at the OCPD upstream or downstream. So, other than the practacality of installation, why would the dimensions in Table 110.26(A)(1) be needed?

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#8369 - 09/16/11 05:16 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Joe L. DuPriest]
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I guess the real life issue would be examination.
Just like a panelboard or switchboard. You remove the cover to inspect the interior while energized, due to a problem. The same would hold true with a transformer.
Sometimes you find items such as a animal, burning connections, lost a leg because a lug broke off. visually check what tap connections were used, thermal imaging test, ETC.
I for one would not want to tell a customer with say a intermittent ocpd tripping that I need to turn the store off just to look.

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#8370 - 09/16/11 06:13 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Joe L. DuPriest]
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I would agree with Ruben as far as examination. But also terminals could be checked for torque and tightened if need be. Xformers do vibrate. I have seen where lugs became burned and/or discolored due to a loose connection. And then subsequently that had to be fixed.





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#8371 - 09/17/11 03:28 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Nick Sasso]
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I think the issue stated is why a working clearance is required when a external disconnect is installed.
I still stand by the requirement regardless of the situation.

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#8372 - 09/19/11 07:27 AM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Joe L. DuPriest]
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I have never been a big fan of the language in this section. In fact, I submitted a proposal a code cycle back to eliminate the words "likely to require" & "while energized" form the section.

To start with, "likely to require" is too vague and uneforceable & I feel working space is needed about equipment regardless if it is energized or not.

So, I do not feel it is a good policy to require some equipment to have the required working space and allow others to not. In my book, ALL equipment, except for devices, utilization equipment, and luminaires are required to have the required working & dedicated equipment space as identifed in 110.26.

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#8373 - 09/19/11 08:48 AM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Bryan Holland]
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Once I heard Charlie Minnick say that you need the working space for the transformer even if only for a maintenance person to come in and dust it off, or paint it, or whatever. I always enforce 110.26 and I also enforce the required venting space (distance away from walls) that always seems to be compromised when it comes to xformer installations.

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#8374 - 09/19/11 11:36 AM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Joe L. DuPriest]
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Bryan, how do you deal with air handler disconnects in closets and attics? That always seemed to be the tough one.

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#8375 - 09/19/11 12:14 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: ]
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I know how I deal with it. I go by 110.26. And unit breaker can serve as the disconnect in many cases.

No problem.







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#8376 - 09/19/11 01:24 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: gfretwell
Bryan, how do you deal with air handler disconnects in closets and attics? That always seemed to be the tough one.



I agree with Nick. Since the FBC-R & FBC-M both require appliance access when installed in these locations (M1305 / 306), I don't see why the electrical equipment associated with these appliances would not be requred to meet required working space & access as well...
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#8378 - 09/19/11 03:25 PM Re: Transformers and 110.26(A) [Re: Joe L. DuPriest]
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I agree with the sentoment but I see plenty of them that you can't push Jim Pauley''s "refrigerator box" (a rough approximation of working space) up to. It certainly is not happening in a typical Florida 3:12 or 4:12 attic, unless the trusses are 50' wide.

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