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#8571 - 11/14/11 04:46 PM Solar Farm
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I have a solar farm and a problem, I think. I will be brief and to the point:

1. The solar farm service equipment has an 800 amp disconnect. The voltage is 480v. There is no overcurrent protection at the service equipment in this location (in the middle of an open field).

2. The wiring travels underground approximately 600 feet, and before entering a school it enters an 800 amp FUSED disconnect.

3. The installation is a line-side tap into the power company service on the school. So the solar farm is of itself, a new service.

My concern is that the wiring from the farm service (located in the middle of the field) travels 600 feet underground without overcurrent protection. It is installed in schedule 80 PVC conduit buried at least 18 inches deep...but still. If the fuses blow at the other end, this wiring is still ON. Right? But I would think that this outside feeder it is required to have overcurrent protection...I am studying the code right now on this one. If anyone can point me in the right direction....

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#8572 - 11/15/11 06:02 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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#8573 - 11/15/11 06:03 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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Is there any way to prevent this or am I stuck with what may be an outside feeder tap of unlimited length?
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#8574 - 11/15/11 07:27 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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What you describe is NOT a feeder tap (by definition), so 240.21(B)(5) wouldn't apply. And, a solar PV system is NOT a service (by definition) so Article 230 wouldn't apply either.

Overcurrent protection of the PV supplied conductors for this system must meet 705.30(A) / 690.9 of the NEC which both reference Article 240.

240.21 states that overcurrent protection must be provided at the point where the conductors receive their supply.

I believe what you describe is a violation of the code.
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#8575 - 11/15/11 08:42 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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Thanks Bryan. Are you saying that I need to view the solar farm as "a load?"
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#8576 - 11/15/11 08:50 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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Additionally, 690 trumps 705 (the fact that it references it specifically) and 690.9 is giving them an out (see exceptions).

What can I do, if anything, to require the OPD?



Edited by Nick Sasso (11/15/11 08:50 AM)
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#8578 - 11/15/11 11:53 AM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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I think you should strongly recommend overcurrent protection but I am not sure you can make them do it if they are willing to go to the wall about it. I really do not see a hazard to life or structures if these conductors burn to a puddle of molten copper underground but it will be expensive to fix.
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#8579 - 11/15/11 12:51 PM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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The 600 feet of unfused conductor travel through a county landfill. Now, do you see a potential problem here?



Edited by Nick Sasso (11/15/11 12:52 PM)
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#8580 - 11/15/11 03:44 PM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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From what I understand about PV systems (and that questionable) they are considered self limiting - that the output is limited by the production potential of the panels and so long as the conductors are rated for the maximum output, no overcurrent device is required until you interconnect to the power company (a much higher potential current). In other words, the conductors are rated for the maximum fault so you cannot have an overcurrent in the conductors. What worries me is a fault to earth... there is nothing to stop the flow. But 690 talks about ground fault protection being required for AC and DC systems, so it may be built in. Best check the manufacturer;s specs.
I am more familiar with AC systems where the inverter is at each panel and shuts down at any interruption of the house voltage - thus under ground fault the main at the building would ocpen, breaking the sensed voltage form the utility and this would shut down all the individual inverters.


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#8582 - 11/15/11 06:25 PM Re: Solar Farm [Re: Nick Sasso]
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Originally Posted By: Nick Sasso
The 600 feet of unfused conductor travel through a county landfill. Now, do you see a potential problem here?



Not particularly. Are you calling it a classified location?

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